Tuesday, November 23, 2010

Sex, Money, and Sugar - Part 4

Part 4 - Trust, Allowance, and Intimacy

One of the most often mentioned conundrums in the sugar world is which comes first, the allowance or the intimacy??  While that's an easy question to ask, there is a wide variety of opinions and there is no one size fits all approach.  We all do what we’re comfortable with based on our experiences and risk tolerance. While one contemplates the issue of allowance and intimacy, the most important factor to consider is "trust".  It's important to remember that trust is earned and built over time, it shouldn't be assumed or given haphazardly.

Let's look at various approaches to allowance and intimacy from the SD's point of view and see the implications.

1.  "There is no way in the world I will give someone a half month up front or anywhere close to that early."

This is a more risk averse approach for the SD's.  But the trade off is that some pot SB’s may not be open to this approach by taking on more risk on their end.

2.  "I’ve always agreed with those who say half the allowance up front, before intimacy, is a reasonable compromise. That way if the thing quickly fizzles out due to poofing or otherwise, it is not a complete loss for either."

There is more risk taking on the part of the SD and he is willing to take on the potential loss. Poofing or non-performance by the SB (or SD) is always annoying, but perhaps it’s less annoying when only half of the allowance is at risk.

3.  I pay it forward, it really builds trust very quickly. Having the financial discussion is difficult for some people, by paying it forward it makes both of you feel comfortable and get the discussion out of the way quickly and simply. 

The SD is taking on most of the risk in this case by paying the allowance in advance and trusting the pot SB to do her part.  But how does one know for sure if the pot SB will actually do what she said she'll do, and what if she doesn't?

The allowance-intimacy issue comes down to whatever the two people involved can agree on, much like any arrangement.  The best result from any relationship is where both parties invest in the relationship, and to a certain extent, take chances. This way there is an element of commitment from both parties by investing their time, money, and effort.  The word “mutual” in mutually beneficial also applies to how both parties are willing to invest and take chances to build trust in the relationship.

We all want to be treated with the same respect and trust we’ve shown to others. However, in the sugar world, common sense and common courtesy may not be so common after all.  In the risk-reward equation, there are people on either side of the spectrum ranging from risk averse to taking unnecessary risks. I can’t imagine there could be much success on either side of the spectrum, so what usually works is somewhere in the middle in terms of taking risks in a prudent manner by both sides. And as I said in the beginning, there is no one size fits all approach and we all do what we’re comfortable with based on our experiences and risk tolerance.

Coming up - Part 5, First Meet and Beyond

8 comments:

  1. In terms of trust, I think an SB can invest in something other than a romp in the sheets to gain trust from an SD. As an SD, I have no problem taking things slow. If a young woman is willing to spend a few dinner & movie with me before asking for the first allowance, I would trust her enough with at least half month allowance, especially if she seems comfortable with intimacy, even if we don't actually go all the way.

    I draw the line at one full month allowance, though.

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  2. Hi SD Guru,

    I have decided it is fair for both parties to take on a little bit of risk. In my previous arrangement I told my SD that until we grow to trust one another the allowance should be given in quarter portions.

    That way he has no risk that I will poof - because he brings the allowance when he sees me.

    I take the risk of it being pay-per-play. However, as a part-time escort I feel it's a risk worth taking since a quarter portion of the allowance is usually a lot more than what I make for 2 or 3 hour appointments with a client.

    I feel most comfortable with this approach and hope to use it into the future. But I like what markx said too, except in his case I'm not sure what "not all the way" could mean :P haha It could mean blowjob...and I wouldn't do that LMAO

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  3. I agree with both Mark and M, except to say that some of the pot SB's I've met with recoil at the suggestion that there be a cash exchange on a per visit basis. And I would think that as a part-time escort, M has come to grips with this and is comfortable with it.

    I typically try to do a pro-rated payment for the first 2 get-togethers before I move into a pure allowance. I have been burned by poofs but recognized that risk and it's only money.

    My aversion to risk varies on how badly I want the relationship to work. If she's hot and we hit it off, I'm more prepared to take a chance. If it's still a work in progress (not everybody warms up immediately), I'm more cautious in moving to a purely allowance arrangement.

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    1. While I never got burned by poofing, I was never comfortable with monthly allowances. I have given advances on a per-visit allowance to help someone in need, but she was trustworthy and it turned out fine. I simply believe that time is limited - both mine and hers - and if I'm going to pay up front for all the visits we're supposed to have that month and then we don't, I feel like trust is compromised. I take the point of view that the per-visit allowance is like a managed cash flow. I prefer getting two paychecks a month rather than one, don't you?

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  4. Gentleman, really? If a young woman is willing to take it slow and have several dinner dates with you to first see if there is chemistry. A Sugar Daddy will without question provide a FULL months allowance.
    Pro-rated payments are not a sugar arrangement. Sorry if this seems like a bit of tough love for you but if you go into something thinking you will get burned you WILL. If you are worried about loss of a few grand, you are going to have a rough road ahead of you in the sugar bowl. An SD in my opinion doesn't quibble over pennies. Taking care of the SB and making sure she is comfortable, safe and cared for is his main focus. The SB is to take her well cared for feeling of bliss into each and every sugar date she has with her SD. Now gentleman, would you rather have a SB come to you feeling like she is only worth half of her monthly allowance? Better she feel like she is appreciated for so much more!
    Pick and qualify SBs with your head not your heart or penis. My advice to SBs is to pick with their heads as well not with $$ in front of their eyes.

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  5. Im knew to the sugar scene, and still havent yet found my sugar daddy...
    Im on SA and SM and have some (fingers crossed) potential sugar daddys, and I think that we are both taking a large risk with trust, and to be honest loosing out on money is a smaller loss then doing something with a man you will later regret??
    Thats just me though, and im not saying anyone is wrong in what they have said.
    But this has definitley given me some ideas on what i should do, because i know i will be wanting some dates before intimacy!!

    By the way anyone who wants to follow my Sugar blog that would be great ;)
    I have no followers yet and i would seriously appreciate talking to people with experience and stories!!!

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  6. Aussie Sugar, thanks for stopping by! I'll keep an eye on your blog. By the way, your text color scheme is hard to read, could you change it so that it's easier on the eyes.

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  7. Well I enjoyed reading this blog. Trust me, my eyes are definitely open!

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